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		<title>Comment on Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; by Mike</title>
		<link>http://positiveincline.com/index.php/2013/05/making-a-case-for-leadership-disciplines/comment-page-1/#comment-26031</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 14:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Maria, thanks. I agree (of course) that they&#039;re all significant. I&#039;m interested here in that particular group of people who aren&#039;t necessarily deeply involved day-to-day but who are capable of exerting a positive influence and can be helped to do so more effectively. Despite their limited involvement they are in a sense at the leading edge (no oun intended) of the change, helping create the right environment for it. And it boils down to this: you have to start somewhere or you&#039;re left with the all-or-nothing, chicken-and-egg problem of mindset.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maria, thanks. I agree (of course) that they&#8217;re all significant. I&#8217;m interested here in that particular group of people who aren&#8217;t necessarily deeply involved day-to-day but who are capable of exerting a positive influence and can be helped to do so more effectively. Despite their limited involvement they are in a sense at the leading edge (no oun intended) of the change, helping create the right environment for it. And it boils down to this: you have to start somewhere or you&#8217;re left with the all-or-nothing, chicken-and-egg problem of mindset.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; by Maria Alfredeen</title>
		<link>http://positiveincline.com/index.php/2013/05/making-a-case-for-leadership-disciplines/comment-page-1/#comment-26026</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Alfredeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 12:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice post, liked the hierarchy vs. collaboration part. But why limit leadership disciplines to the first group of Kanban values? I think they are all as significant.  You describe collaboration, balance and transparency the more practice-focused values, still they are values a good leader need. Please describe how you mean. Then I miss something on systems thinking; having the Kanban values established, leaders need to see the full picture and support improvement where most needed. So, with all the Kanban values plus systems thinking we have an even better leadership discipline, I think :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, liked the hierarchy vs. collaboration part. But why limit leadership disciplines to the first group of Kanban values? I think they are all as significant.  You describe collaboration, balance and transparency the more practice-focused values, still they are values a good leader need. Please describe how you mean. Then I miss something on systems thinking; having the Kanban values established, leaders need to see the full picture and support improvement where most needed. So, with all the Kanban values plus systems thinking we have an even better leadership discipline, I think <img src='http://positiveincline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; by Mike</title>
		<link>http://positiveincline.com/index.php/2013/05/making-a-case-for-leadership-disciplines/comment-page-1/#comment-26022</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 09:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Liz, glad you liked it, and good comments.

&quot;Tolerance&quot; and (most especially) &quot;forgiveness&quot; are great values; I keep referring to &quot;agreement&quot; because it forms part of a value system through which I teach and apply Kanban and reflect on my own effectiveness as an agent of change.

I describe myself (fairly I think) as a natural consensus-builder, but that doesn&#039;t mean that integrity and creativity go out the window. A diversity of opinion is both the start of a process guided by the &quot;discipline&quot; of agreement and an important check on it. Your &quot;signal of uncertainty&quot; is a good point.

&gt; The advice about speaking your values is really useful, though. I probably don&#039;t outline that this is what I&#039;m doing enough. Thank you!

I&#039;d be a little careful here - it&#039;s not about you (if that&#039;s what you mean). All I&#039;ve done here is to reverse-engineer a value system that (it seems) a good part of the Kanban community buys into, from which some principles broader than those of the method can easily be extrapolated. You could do the same with another method, community or organisation, just as DJA has done for the Agile manifesto since at least 2007. Speaking the values, the principles and stories are how we build shared understanding, bind ourselves together and turn lip service into concrete action.

Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz, glad you liked it, and good comments.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tolerance&#8221; and (most especially) &#8220;forgiveness&#8221; are great values; I keep referring to &#8220;agreement&#8221; because it forms part of a value system through which I teach and apply Kanban and reflect on my own effectiveness as an agent of change.</p>
<p>I describe myself (fairly I think) as a natural consensus-builder, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that integrity and creativity go out the window. A diversity of opinion is both the start of a process guided by the &#8220;discipline&#8221; of agreement and an important check on it. Your &#8220;signal of uncertainty&#8221; is a good point.</p>
<p>> The advice about speaking your values is really useful, though. I probably don&#8217;t outline that this is what I&#8217;m doing enough. Thank you!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be a little careful here &#8211; it&#8217;s not about you (if that&#8217;s what you mean). All I&#8217;ve done here is to reverse-engineer a value system that (it seems) a good part of the Kanban community buys into, from which some principles broader than those of the method can easily be extrapolated. You could do the same with another method, community or organisation, just as DJA has done for the Agile manifesto since at least 2007. Speaking the values, the principles and stories are how we build shared understanding, bind ourselves together and turn lip service into concrete action.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; by Liz Keogh</title>
		<link>http://positiveincline.com/index.php/2013/05/making-a-case-for-leadership-disciplines/comment-page-1/#comment-26020</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 08:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really love the inclusiveness of this approach.

I&#039;d go with &quot;tolerance and forgiveness&quot; over &quot;agreement&quot;, though - more of an &quot;understanding of what needs to be tried&quot; than an &quot;understanding of what needs to be done&quot;.

I like using disagreement as a signal of uncertainty. I&#039;ve been teaching all kinds of teams to treat it that way; they then come up with ways of getting more information, quickly, either by spiking something out or other small experiments.

This has been especially useful in change processes, where just about *everything* is complex! And I&#039;ve also seen the results of disagreement being treated as failure in this space, when people aren&#039;t sure of what needs to happen next. I don&#039;t believe that needs to be the case.

The advice about speaking your values is really useful, though. I probably don&#039;t outline that this is what I&#039;m doing enough. Thank you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really love the inclusiveness of this approach.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d go with &#8220;tolerance and forgiveness&#8221; over &#8220;agreement&#8221;, though &#8211; more of an &#8220;understanding of what needs to be tried&#8221; than an &#8220;understanding of what needs to be done&#8221;.</p>
<p>I like using disagreement as a signal of uncertainty. I&#8217;ve been teaching all kinds of teams to treat it that way; they then come up with ways of getting more information, quickly, either by spiking something out or other small experiments.</p>
<p>This has been especially useful in change processes, where just about *everything* is complex! And I&#8217;ve also seen the results of disagreement being treated as failure in this space, when people aren&#8217;t sure of what needs to happen next. I don&#8217;t believe that needs to be the case.</p>
<p>The advice about speaking your values is really useful, though. I probably don&#8217;t outline that this is what I&#8217;m doing enough. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; by Natalie Warnert</title>
		<link>http://positiveincline.com/index.php/2013/05/making-a-case-for-leadership-disciplines/comment-page-1/#comment-26001</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie Warnert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 17:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point about the hierarchy vs. collaboration. Love the graphics, too. Illustrates pretty close to what I thought in 2011 :) we all certainly can iterate it and continue to increase collaboration on teams without letting hierarchy get in the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point about the hierarchy vs. collaboration. Love the graphics, too. Illustrates pretty close to what I thought in 2011 <img src='http://positiveincline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  we all certainly can iterate it and continue to increase collaboration on teams without letting hierarchy get in the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; by Martin Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right - the mindset issue is used as a huge excuse, as if it has to be doctrinally perfect before transformation has started.

It is true that for transformation to succeed, mindset has to change (and if it doesn&#039;t, you get FrAgile and LINO/LAME), but that&#039;s *part* of the transformation journey, not a pre-requisite.

I&#039;d rather work in a FrAgile/LINO organisation than one where the mindset is changing, but not the working methods, as that&#039;s a recipe for huge stress and frustration. For change agents, there will always be an element of this, but as long as the transformation is still moving, then it&#039;s manageable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; the mindset issue is used as a huge excuse, as if it has to be doctrinally perfect before transformation has started.</p>
<p>It is true that for transformation to succeed, mindset has to change (and if it doesn&#8217;t, you get FrAgile and LINO/LAME), but that&#8217;s *part* of the transformation journey, not a pre-requisite.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather work in a FrAgile/LINO organisation than one where the mindset is changing, but not the working methods, as that&#8217;s a recipe for huge stress and frustration. For change agents, there will always be an element of this, but as long as the transformation is still moving, then it&#8217;s manageable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Three notes from my #lkna13 talk &#8220;Kanban through its values&#8221; by Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; &#124; Positive Incline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Making a case for &#8220;leadership disciplines&#8221; &#124; Positive Incline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 12:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Kanban for? by Morisseau Consulting &#187; Kanban Digest #14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morisseau Consulting &#187; Kanban Digest #14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Who is Kanban for? by Kanban Digest #14 &#124; Morisseau Consulting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kanban Digest #14 &#124; Morisseau Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Kanban: values, understanding &amp; purpose by Who is Kanban for? &#124; Positive Incline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who is Kanban for? &#124; Positive Incline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 13:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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